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From jr@orbitcommunications.com Wed Jan 14 14:33:31 1998
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro
Subject: Re: gi 921
From: "News" <jr@orbitcommunications.com>
Date: Wed, 14 Jan 1998 14:33:31 -0500
No Because you digital unit id number does not start with 00-12*****. If
it
does the answer would be yes.
Jay R Echouafni
Orbit Communication Corp.
978-440-8899 Ext. 8100
e-mail: JR@OrbitCommunications.com
Home: http://OrbitSat.com
TechSupport http://OrbitSat.com/Support
gord@lindsaycomp.on.ca wrote in message
<884728204.1701904389@dejanews.com>...
>I have the Canadian version of the 4DTV reciever, model GI 921. It
appears
>to be the same unit, If I had a US address could the unit be authorized?
>If not what makes them different?
>
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From ghanna@ma.ultranet.com Sat Jan 10 20:22:37 1998
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro
Subject: Re: 4dtv for sale
From: "News" <ghanna@ma.ultranet.com>
Date: Sat, 10 Jan 1998 20:22:37 -0500
This receiver can be purchased for $400 and are limited to Canadian
programming. You will not be able to get a description to anything in the
IPG other than Starchoice Programming. Its working for now and when the
transition is finished channels for U.S satellite systems will not display
on the Canadian system.
J.R
http://orbitsat.com
Mark wrote in message <34B7B09C.FC5531B3@idirect.ca>...
>For those who want 4dtv , but do not wish to subscribe to any
>programming, we have new Canadian 4dtv units (NextLevel model 921)
>for sale for $650 Cdn (approx. $450 US), plus shipping.
>
>Please NOTE: You are not permitted to activate these Units for
>subscription services in the US, although the unit will accept VCII+
>module. All other ITC C / ku , digital / analog feeds can be received.
>Can also be activated on Canadian StarChoice dbs subscription (if you
>have Canadian address).
>
>For more info email to return address.
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From carrigan@MAIL.PRIS.BC.CA Fri Jan 16 06:14:12 1998
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro
Subject: starchoice and US programming
From: Christopher Carrigan <carrigan@MAIL.PRIS.BC.CA>
Date: Fri, 16 Jan 1998 04:14:12 -0700
Hi
Has anyone with the starchoice 4DTV had any luck getting authourized for
other programming (from US sources), not offered by starchoice, (ie HBO
digital etc)?
Christopher Carrigan
Arras, B.C. V0C 1B0
carrigan@pris.bc.ca
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From me@the.candy.store Mon Jan 12 19:48:08 1998
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro
Subject: Re: 4dtv for sale
From: Dany Falle <me@the.candy.store>
Date: Mon, 12 Jan 1998 20:48:08 -0400
TeePee wrote:
> News wrote:
> >
> > This receiver can be purchased for $400 and are limited to
Canadian
> > programming. You will not be able to get a description to anything
in the
> > IPG other than Starchoice Programming. Its working for now and
when the
> > transition is finished channels for U.S satellite systems will not
display
> > on the Canadian system.
> > J.R
> > http://orbitsat.com
>
> I believe you are thinking of the 411 model not the 921.
> Mark's info is correct, according to what GI told me.
> The IPG cannot be d/l'd from A2, where StarChoice is located, true, but
> is d/l'd from the same sat the US version uses.
> I HAVE heard conflicting stories, so I cant say for sure, I havent ried
> it, I'm just going by what GI emailed me.
> If someone has one they could tell us for sure.
>
> Tim
I have the 921 and here is what I see. If I unplug the reciever(reset)
and go
on G9 780, I'll get the US IPG. Then if I go on Anik 2, the Starchoice IPG
will
load. It will kick off the US IPG but, for the programs that are being
shared on
both IPG's, the US marking will prevail. For instance, on the canadian IPG,
CNN
should be like E2 322 (not the right number anyways) but instead will be
shown
as G5 05. It is like that for all stations like ABC, NBC, CBS and so on.
ps. Just wanted to put my 2 cents worth.
Dany
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From sherry@amersatt.com Mon Jan 19 20:11:11 1998
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro
Subject: Re: starchoice and US programming
From: "Sherry Heinz" <sherry@amersatt.com>
Date: Tue, 20 Jan 1998 01:11:11 GMT
You can not have a Star Choice receiver authorized for US digital. The
Unit ID number are different for the 4DTV and the Star choice. If you call
a US source and ask for authorization your numbers will not work. As the
system is now they can take your numbers and process them, there isn't any
checks and balances in place like the VC# has to tell the programmers if it
is a valid DC ID number. But you will not get any of your US programming
nor will you get the IPG for the US.
--
Sherry Heinz
American Satellite Technology
216-275-1048
http://www.amersatt.com
Von Weise Parts Distributor
sherry@amersatt.com
Christopher Carrigan <carrigan@MAIL.PRIS.BC.CA> wrote in article
<v03102802b0e4f119409a@[199.60.237.64]>...
> Hi
> Has anyone with the starchoice 4DTV had any luck getting authourized
for
> other programming (from US sources), not offered by starchoice, (ie HBO
> digital etc)?
>
> -----------------------
> Christopher Carrigan
> Arras, B.C. V0C 1B0
>
> carrigan@pris.bc.ca
>
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From wdcentral@usa.net Sun Jan 11 21:07:36 1998
To: mweiher@flash.net
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro
Subject: Re: 4dTV
From: DRL <wdcentral@usa.net>
Date: Sun, 11 Jan 1998 20:07:36 -0600
Checkout:
http://www.texanet.net/bht/4dtv.html (Bulverde Home Theater) (Their Web
Page says they will beat any internet price)
http://www.flash.net/~dmsi/cku.htm (Direct Marketing Source)
http://www.satmart.com/ (SatMart) (Very low price)
http://www.azstarnet.com/public/commerce/satellite/gi4dtv.htm (Satellite
Warehouse)
http://www.skytex.com/bigdish/4dtv.html (Sky Tex Satellite)
http://www.altavista.digital.com/cgi-bin/query?pg=q&what=web&kl=XX&q=4dtv&search.x=24&search.y=8
(AltaVista Search for 4dtv)
I found the AltaVista search very helpful. The prices are changing fairy
rapidly at many sites. To know the current lowest price you will
probably have to do some searching on the internet.
Also I have not personally had any dealings with most of these vendors
so I have now knowledge or affiliation with them.
You may also want to checkout the news:alt.video.satellite.4dtv news
group if it available on your ISP's server.
Mark Weiher wrote:
>
> Hi all!
>
> I'm new to the group and am looking for the best price for a 4dTV
> receiver! Here in L.A. area the asking price seems to be $849.
>
> Any and all help is appreciated!
>
> Thanks!
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From Stuart@texas.edu.net Wed Dec 31 14:26:38 1997
Newsgroups: rec.video.satellite.tvro
Subject: Re: Help with Starchoice Install
From: Stuart@texas.edu.net
Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:26:38 GMT
If you have a 10' c/ku set up just make sure your KU LNB is a good
one. I have no problems receiving the digital KU programming that is
in FP mode on Anik E2 ku and I have a .7kulnb.
You can get a phase stable lnb and this might help some.
Also you need to make sure your dish is tweaked correctly.
both the 4Dtv and the 921 Star Choice receivers are the same according
to the info received with the exception that SC receivers can only be
authorized for SC programming and the 4DTv can only be authorized for
digital programming such as HBO ect...and not for SC programming.
New York State is in the footprint and should be able to receive a
good signal from Anik E2 ku.
**SC= Star Choice**
On Wed, 31 Dec 1997 00:24:20 -0500, Jeremy Forster
<hobby1@AURACOM.COM> wrote:
>A larger offset dish will help. We use a 3 footer in Halifax and at
times it
>is inadequate for both Canadian services. I would suggest using as large
an
>offset as you can afford in N.Y. to overcome signal problems further
south.
>
>Jeremy :)
>
>
>
>>If you have the original dish that is 18 inches then you will have
to go to a
>>bigger dish which is about one meter. Some dealers are recommending
this.
>>
>>MGattereau wrote:
>>
>>> Anyone ever experience Starchoice in the New York Metro area, I
have a
>>> starchoice the signal seems too weak to get to New York any
info please help.
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Authorization Codes:
These codes can be found on the 920 / 922 & 921 receivers by
pressing,
Options, 6,0,5, Right Arrow >, Right Arrow >
This will bring you to the diagnostic screen B which has the
following codes at the bottom.
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ZK = Zero Key
Channel is open for everybody. Classified as "FTA".
FP= Fixed Processed or Fixed Key
Channel is FTA only if your receiver is authorized or in the system.
MP= Multiple Processed or Scrambled
Channel is scrambled and you need an authorization/subscription.
MI= Missing Information
Channel cannot be viewed because of missing information.
MS= Missing Service Status
Critical information is not there for programming to appear.
NS= Not Subscribed
Channel is not available until you subscribe.
S= Subscribed
Channel is currently subscribed to.
US = Undefined Service. Means that there could be something missing
that will not allow you to see the channel.
It could be something as simple as a bad service number,
or it could be that the programmer is no longer
showing that programming at that frequency.
CL= Channel Lockout
Channel is locked out and you need to hit options 3-3 to remove the chanbnel
lock.
OC = Old Category
You receiver did not receive the monthly code update and you may lose
all authorizations until you either call your provider for a re-hit or you
"luck-out", and receive the updated code by staying on a channel
you
had subscribed to.
(The best way to make sure you receive an updated code is to leave your
receiver on a subscribed digital channel overnight or while your at work.)
There is another code :
U= Subscribed
The programmer basically says they don't want to pay Motorola for tier bits
to open up to the
4DTV market so the program is open (subscribed) on any receiver that
is turned on in the system.
Remember the 920 & 922 are on a different system then the 921. this
"U" code will not work on any other system.
If Star Choice has a "U" code on one channel then only the Star
Choice receivers will be able to view that channel.
For a more complete listing of the Authorization Codes visit this link:
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If you would like volume control on your tv only; via your 4dtv remote
then set your receiver to:
A0 remote code to 000
A1 remote code to 001
A2 remote code to 002
A3 remote code to 003
When GI gave us last years software upgrade to 0000006D, we received
the prevelage of volume control on the 4dtv as well as the tv. Now you
could set the codes as follows. Receiver code set to:
A0 remote code to 100
A1 remote code to 101
A2 remote code to 102
A3 remote code to 103
As you may know to set the code on the 4dtv is with the north/south
keys on the right side of the reciever or up and down buttons. Once you
press them at the same time, you will see A0 or A1,A2,A3 in the display
area on the 4dtv receiver.
To change this code is done again by using the north/south keys or up
and down buttons on the front of the 4dtv receiver.
Once you select the code, hit the "enter" button on the 4dtv
receiver
and now your ready for the remote code.
Remember 000,001,002,003 on the remote disables volume control on the
4dtv receiver and only tv volume will work. 100,101,102,103 wil enable
both volume controls;.... on your tv via tv button (on your remote) and
4dtv volume control via the sat (4dtv) button beside the source button.
Options 6-0-5
The 2nd line shows the version number: This one began as version 27 and was updated to version 6D.
Options- 6-0-5- >
The 2nd line showing here "B6B7" is the monthly code update.
If you ever get an "OC" where it shows "ZK" here in this
photo, you did not receive your monthly update.
Options- 6-0-5- > >
Ever hear of TDT Overflow ? One of the flaws in the receiver is that the
overflow limit was set to 1920.
This next diagram shows the TDT on this receiver at 1807. Look on the
top line in the middle.
The next photo shows the TDT at 1797. Once it hits 1920 your receiver will do some strange things and only a Master Reset will correct it.
This next screen shows the IPG download section.
If you use the arrow keys on the remote you can page down here. This one
shows a 920 receiver.
The 921 receiver uses a "Trickle Down download" system and that shows
up when your on this screen and use the arrow key to page down 1 time.
You can also flush the IPG while on this screen by hitting the "info"
key on your remote.
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